Category Archives: Kingston Frontenac County

Ontario Wanderings: Kingston & The Diocese of Ontario revisited

My route to Kingston was from Tweed to Napanee.  From Napanee I headed east to Kingston on Hwy 2.  I was familiar with Kingston from my last visit in 2012 when I attended the Ontario Genealogical Society Conference held there.

Kingston's Water Tower

Kingston’s Water Tower Almost the same photo as 2012

See my posts dated June 22, 2012, June 21, 2012 and June 20, 2012 on the blog The Man Who Lived Airplanes for my trip in 2012 to the Kingston area.  Use the Archive list box or find the Kingston category.

As usual travel can take more time than you think. and it was fast approaching 1 pm and I was not yet in Kingston.  I stopped at the Denny’s in Napanee (or was that Great Napanee) to get some lunch. It is important to have a full tummy when you do research.

My original plan was to check in and park at the Confederation Place Hotel but I didn’t have time so I sought out on street parking.  This time I was across the street on Wellington Ave.  A big semi was backing into the lot on the other side of the street. I yelled “NO” when he got too close to my car.

Anglican Diocese Sign

Anglican Diocese Sign

You enter the Diocese archives through the bookstore in the back.  They have open hours and this was Thursday so I was good.  This is an awesome bookstore but I didn’t have time to dally.

Through the Bookstore

Through the Bookstore

Down the stairs

Down the stairs

Lisa Russell is the contact person and she greeted me as I came down the steep stairs. I paid my $15.00 for the day. This Diocese has indexed their records so you use the index first and then with that information you obtain copies from the registers.  Some registers have been  photocopied so you get a copy of a copy.  I had made three spreadsheets of baptisms, marriages and deaths of my Brown family.  I worked through them writing down what I found on the index as requested by Lisa who gave me a very thorough review of how to use the index.  http://ontario.anglican.ca/wp/the-anglican-diocese-of-ontario-archives-adoa/

The Diocese Archive Room

The Diocese Archive Room

Lisa began pulling the copies of the registers from my list.  You don’t usually get an original register but this time I did at least get to look at one.  Lisa is very fast and had all my copies to me within minutes.

I returned to feed the meter and while I was walking back I called my friend Elaine Brown to make arrangements for dinner at the Keg which was an easy walk from the hotel.

I didn’t find all the Brown information that I wanted.  I double checked and Richard Brown my great-grandfather is just not there in the baptisms.  So I have not been able on this trip to find his baptismal record.  I did baptisms, marriages, deaths and burials.  I will refer to my findings in other future posts.  I have eliminated the church records of this diocese and the St. John’s of Petersborough.

I was done about 4 pm and had arrived around 1:45 pm.  I paid for my copies at $.50 a sheet.  Fortunately no one else came to do research so I was able to work quickly and efficiently with no interruptions.  I was happy.

I thanked Lisa and headed out, wishing her the best.

This was my second visit to this archive and it was a good visit. The picture below is of Lake Ontario the eastern end of it.  I have almost circumnavigated this lake except of the area on the south side that is in Ohio.

The Wharf at Kingston

The Wharf at Kingston almost through my hotel window…

It was not hard to find the Confederation Place Hotel on Ontario Street. I checked in and moved my car to the underground parking.  It made it so much easier to unload and take my stuff to my room which was #511 and it was on the harbour side with a view of Lake Ontario. If you read that they had a bit of a problem with the underground parking that is all taken care of now.  It was a bit tricky to get into the garage and out but make sure you get the instructions.  It was a wonderful view of the lake, wharf with the boats and the park.  I watched the sunset and sunrise from my window.  I did take pictures through the window but there was a lot of reflection.

Ontario Street

Ontario Street – Confederation Place Hotel

About 5:30 pm I headed to the Keg for dinner.  I did not know it was one of the best restaurants in town.  It is very fancy in there and they take good care of you.  My friend Elaine and I had a grand time.

The Keg Restaurant in Kingston

The Keg Restaurant in Kingston

My journey had come to end for my mother’s side of the family the Boardmans, Wards, and Browns an associated surnames.  The Browns did go through Montreal when they arrived and most families probably did.  Of course I have had successes and also still have tough problems on my ancestry to solve but I do know now what the lay of the land is like and it will help me in my searches.  It was a big job this trip but I am happy and content.

It is now time to head over to my other blog and share about the remainder of my journeys and adventures on The Man Who Lived Airplanes blog. http://macdonellfamily.wordpress.com/

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Kingston, an Anglican Diocese office, the OGS Conference!

It seems like you never have enough time when you travel.  It was time to head out and drive to Kingston in Frontenac County, to the east of Hastings County.  I would travel through the southern part of Lennox and Addington County and then Frontenac.

The Ontario Genealogical Society was holding their annual conference in Kingston at the St. Lawrence College: Borders and Bridges 2012. The dates were June 1 to 3, 2012. Conferences are a great way to network, learn something new and cruise the vendor tables.

It was time to finish up the Brown side of this research trip and start moving back to the McDonald side.  For more details about my visit to Kingston and the OGS conference go to the blog:  The Man Who Lived Airplanes:

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I left Belleville taking Hwy 2 to Tyendinaga, Napanese, Odessa, Westbrook and into Kingston itself. I was a little disappointed because I had hoped to see more of the Bay of Quinte on Hwy 2.  I guess you need to know where to go to see it?

Hello Kingston

I arrived in Kingston about 6 pm so I was focused on checking in to the B&B, getting some dinner and settling in for the night.  The next day would be a busy day.  A visit to the Anglican Diocese office, a visit with a friend and fellow genealogist that I had never met but we had corresponded via email and lastly the beginnings of the OGS conference.

My lodging was in a bed and breakfast called the Briar Patch. http://www.bbcanada.com/8965.html?showpage=1  The next morning I was greeted with a very delicious breakfast by the proprietors and some pleasant conversation.

My appointment with the Archdiocese office was at 9:15 am, so I had to get going. I took Queen Mary’s Street which meshed into Johnson and that took me to downtown Kingston.  Johnson is one way east.

The sign to the office

The Anglican Diocese of Ontario is at 90 Johnson St.  This is their home page:  http://ontario.anglican.ca/wp/  Be advised they change their website a lot and the links get messed up.

This is the Archives page:  http://ontario.anglican.ca/wp/the-anglican-diocese-of-ontario-archives-adoa/

Their hours are Tuesday and Thursday and that would not work for me, so I emailed and the Diocesan Archival Technician responded with a very friendly greeting inviting me to visit on Friday June 1, 2012.

This diocese covers Hastings Co., Lennox & Addington, Frontenac and Leeds & Grenville counties and all the church records for the Anglican churches in those counties to as far back as they can go.

Anglican Diocese, Kingston

Once I identified the building I went in search of parking which was interesting.  I think I circles at least twice before I finally just grabbed a spot a block down and over.  I put my money in the meter.  I was only to get 2 hours.

You enter the building of the diocese offices through their bookstore on Wellington Street and they take you into the hallway and down some stairs to the lower area.

Research Room, Anglican Diocese, Kingston

There was another researcher who was already present.  Lisa greeted us.  She wanted to explain the process of using the index to the both of us at one time.  The index would lead to the church registers. Lisa instructed us to write down the whole entry from the index.  Since there were two of us, we were to take turns using the index and then while one was working on the computer the other would be getting copies made from the register books.  Lisa was the one that made the copies and found the registers.  Since the other person was there first, I revisited the St. Thomas church publication.  I had looked at it at the Quinte Public Library.

My turn came and I started with the deaths of William Brown and his sons who had resided in Hastings Co.  An index entry was something like:  Brown, Philip 79  10 04 1895  286  4S4.  It reads age, death date, page, register.

Lisa pulled the records which were actually photo copies of the registers.  Apparently they are too fragile to handle.

I was very excited I found my 3rd great-grandfather William Brown’s death and burial information:

St. Thomas Anglican Registers, page 313, Register 7B3, Age 87, date of death 20/06/1848.

“Brown Buried: William Brown of Rawdon, who died on the 31st  Ulto, aged Eighty seven years was buried on the 2nd day of June 1848 by me. Present Henry Brown & George Brown, John Green Rector.”  This means he was born 1761 not 1775.  Note:  I think the index is a little off.  They had 87  20/06/1848.  Unless I copied it wrong.

Thomas Brown, the son was also in the records for St. Thomas and died 06/08/1848 which means they died very close to each other.

“Brown buried. Thomas Brown of Rawdon, who, died on the 4th inst. was buried on the 6th day of August 1848 by me. D. Murphy Officiating minister, Present Philip Brown and James Haggerty.”  pg. 319 Register 7B3.

“April 10, 1895 – Wm. Herbert Smythe, Stirling Cemetery, Philip Brown 70, Farmer, old age.”  pg. 286, Register 4s4

My trip to Ontario was now worth it all.  William was actually here from 1830 and lived approximately 18 years in Ontario.  This new information should make it easier to find him in Ireland.   Also we now have a better death date for Thomas.  I have the actual copies of the registers for Philip, Thomas, William Brown.

Unfortunately I only had two hours and it went too quickly.  My parking meter was running out and so I finished up and didn’t get very far with the marriages and didn’t have time for the baptisms.  I did look but couldn’t find a way to cut down the number of Browns.

Fortunately for me the Diocese went to the Ontario Genealogical Conference and brought their index.  So I went in search of the room the following day and waited to talk to the helper.  My turn came a good 30 minutes later and he actually did a searched that Lisa had not shown us.  He was able to narrow down the baptisms for the Browns using George and Esther Brown the parents.  Unfortunately Richard Brown my great-grandfather and son of Esther and George was not listed.  Hmmm…Other Browns were there and will need to be further investigated.

My time was up and I realized I was going to have to return to do more digging.

It was now time to switch the focus of the research back to the McDonald side.  I was meeting a person who I had wanted to meet for years since I found her online and her wonderful compilation of the burials and death registers for the St. Alphonsus Catholic Church Records in Chapeau, Pontiac Co., Quebec. So go here to pick up the rest of the trip in Ontario and Quebec:

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